Friday, December 2, 2011

Fish in Your Ear - Comments Chap 1 & 2

I mentioned in an earlier post that I was going to re-read the book (Is That a Fish in Your Ear?) and post some comments, so here goes.

The main topic of the book is: What is translation? and What is it that translation does?


Chapter 1 begins by saying that translation is difficult to study and to understand, because it varies in so many ways. A hundred translators could very well produce 100 different translations of the same text, while there would only be a tiny chance of any two out of those 100 translations being identical.

In short, translation isn't an exact science, but that's part of its charm.

Chapter 2 asks the question: Is translation avoidable/necessary?

Bellos says that three possibilities have been historically tested:
1) Learn all the languages of people with whom you have contact (e.g. India)
2) Everyone must speak one common language (e.g. Roman empire)
3) Ignore anyone who doesn’t speak your language (e.g. Albania post WWII)

Since the British Empire, English has emerged as a global language. But why?
- Common myth that it is “easier” to learn than others (false)
- Economic/military power played a role, but it also has survived by default (many others have fallen from use: French, German, Latin, etc.)

Attempts have been made at a “global” language: e.g. Esperanto
- It's unlikely ever to succeed without some other impetus (economic, military, scientific, etc.)

So translation is avoidable, but most likely necessary.

I'd love to hear other translators/interpreters thoughts. Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

-John

Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Fish in your ear - The Interview

Good morning. I have yet another link related to the book: Is That a Fish in your Ear? This time, it's an interview on NPR with the book's author, David Bellos. Looks like at least one translator is getting some national recognition in the States.

Enjoy!

-John

Monday, November 14, 2011

Translation article - Salon.com

Another quick post: I just read this article http://www.salon.com/2011/10/30/how_do_you_say_balls_of_gold_in_french/singleton/#
from Salon.com, which touches on some of the issues discussed in David Bellos's book. Interesting stuff, indeed.

Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Is That a Fish in Your Ear? Time for comments

Hello fellow CATI bookworms,

As I mentioned in my last post, I recently bought and read the book "Is That a Fish in Your Ear?" by David Bellos. It's a very good read in general, and I highly recommend it for anyone in the translation/interpreting sector.

There are so many good points addressed that I don't where to begin, but over the next few weeks, I'm going to re-read the chapters and post some thoughts on this blog.

Please feel free to comment, and if you have the chance, pick up the book and let me know what you think. I'll look forwarding to hearing from you.

-John

Sunday, September 18, 2011

Is That a Fish in Your Ear?

Hello CATI book-lovers! I hope that you've had a good summer. It's been far too long since I've posted on the blog, but I've been incredibly busy, having recently relocated to the south of Brazil, where I will be working for the next 6 months.

In any event, yesterday, I read a good review in The Economist of a book about translation entitled Is That a Fish in Your Ear?, by David Bellos, and I thought that it would be a great book to suggest to get our book club back up and running.

So, please have a look at the review and/or the book, and let's see if we can get another discussion going online. Hope to hear from you all soon.

Best regards,

-John

Friday, February 4, 2011

More on Translator and Interpreter as Protagonist

Sorry about all the spaces in the previous post. I'm copying from a Word file. This book review is along the same lines and mentions other works.

Susan

From the AIIC website:
Book review: Interpreters and translators as literary creations
By Phil Smith
Wortklauber, Sinnverdreher, Brückenbauer
DolmetscherInnen und ÜbersetzerInnen als literarische Geschöpfe
[Pedants, traducers or bridge builders. Interpreters and translators as literary creations]
Ingrid Kurz, Klaus Kaindl (editors)
Im Spiegel der Literatur Band 1
LIT Verlag Vienna 2005
ISBN 3-8258-8495-3
The editors of this collection of essays know that we interpreters enjoy seeing ourselves depicted in book or film yet cannot help judging the accuracy of any description of our profession or its practitioners, even if the interpreter is no more than a convenient hook on which to hang the story within the confines of artistic licence. This book does not set out to provide an academic study of the interpreter in literature, but simply to give us a taste of how others view our lives and work.
Do you remember the film "The Full Monty" about steel workers in the north of England who decided to strip when made redundant? There is a scene where they try to learn dance routines from a film about a female welder who's also a great dancer. One of the would-be strippers comments "I hope she's a better dancer than welder, her oxygen mix is all wrong".
Like the welder, we cannot entirely switch off, so if we read or see a depiction of an interpreter, our critical faculties slip into overdrive. We inevitably put ourselves into the shoes of the protagonist (Selbstverortung in der dargestellten Welt).
This deftly edited short book considers 15 works of literature that feature translators and interpreters. The reviews were written by working professionals who submitted a short piece on a work that they had read.
The thread that runs through all the reviewed stories is the interpreter as perpetual outsider, a person who does not live entirely in just one culture, but commutes between them and is therefore rootless and envious of those with a clear-cut identity. Language is often the well-spring of a firm sense of self. Home for an interpreter is his or her native language, yet because of where they live interpreters may have lost their mother tongue - they are geographically and linguistically adrift. The constant processing of the world around us that multilingualism brings can be a burden, and the interpreter may envy others the security of speaking just one language.
Interpreters in literature appear ready made with all their languages - by accident of birth or linguistic osmosis - and few authors appear aware that most of us have had to acquire our languages from scratch and learn our tradecraft. There are also some flashes of insight, for example the idea that sometimes you can only understand what people are saying once they've finished saying it (...bestimmte Aussagen erst im nachhinein auf ihre tatsächliche Bedeutung hin interpretierbar sind).
Some of the characteristics ascribed to interpreters ring a bell: an interpreter is always to some extent an outsider, aware of different ways of speaking, thinking and doing; an interpreter's own family history is often reflected in the languages she speaks; an interpreter never entirely switches off but is always on the lookout for that expression or well-honed phrase, and perhaps it is fair to talk of the "burden of bilingualism".
The reviewers find the portrayals of interpreters generally sympathetic, even insightful, although our colleague Sergio Viaggio is clearly no fan of Javier Marías' Corazón tan Blanco - the scene in the book where two interpreters work for a thinly veiled Margaret Thatcher and a thinly disguised Felipe González has acquired a kind of cult status amongst interpreters; I guess you either love it or hate it.
Each thought-provoking essay is short and deals with an individual work, which makes this a good book for dipping into.
As Robbie Burns said in his poem "The Louse" written in 1786:
O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us!
The works considered are:
Liselotte Marshall - Tongue-tied
Ingeborg Bachmann - Simultan
Abdelkebir Khatibi - Un été à Stockholm
Suki Kim - The Interpreter
Jonathan Safran Foers - Everything is illuminated
Jesús Díaz - Siberiana
Jhumpa Lahiris - Interpreter of Maladies
Ágnes Gergely - Die Dolmetscherin (A tolmács)
György Dalos - Der Versteckspieler
Michael Frayn - The Russian Interpreter
Christine Arnothy - Toutes les chances plus une
Doris Lessing - The Summer before the Dark

Translator and Interpreter as Protagonist

Hi-- I started this list in a fit of procrastination and wanted to share it. This is literature about translators and interpreters. Not all the comments about the works are mine. Perhaps the group would like to read one of these? Or, perhaps those who have read one or more of these books would like to comment on them?







Fiction



The Interpreter: A Novel, by Suki Kim







The Interpreter, by Suzanne Glass







OK, Joe, by Louis Guilloux, translated by Alice Kaplan







Songs for the Butcher’s Daughter: A Novel, by Peter Manseau







*Bel Canto, by Ann Patchett Patchett (very annoying book about an interpreter in which the word interpreter is not used once) (I loved Bel Canto... Did you notice how when they drew up the list for which hostages would stay and which would go free, the interpreter was on neither list? Invisible...)







*The Mission Song, by John Le Carré (interpreter spy thriller)







*The Adventure of the Greek Interpreter, by Arthur Conan Doyle



The Strand Magazine, volume VI, London, 1893 (available online)







Between Mountains, by Maggie Helwig (featuring an interpreter at the Hague and a reporter who has made his career interviewing a man on trial for war crimes - not sure whether he's actually called Karadzic in the novel, but it's based on him)











Non-Fiction



The Interpreter, by Alice Kaplan (about Louis Guilloux)







Le Ton Beau De Marot: In Praise Of The Music Of Language
, by Douglas Hofstadter (among other things, about translating a poem)







The Translator: A Memoir, by Daoud Hari. About Darfur.







*If This Be Treason: Translation and Its Dyscontents, A Memoir, by Gregory Rabassa







The Origins of Simultaneous Interpretation: The Nuremberg Trial, by Francesca Gaiba







White House Interpreter: The Art of Interpretation, Harry Obst







Interpreters as Diplomats: A Diplomatic History of the Role of Interpreters in World Politics (Perspectives on Translation), Ruth Roland